Yeah, I think when I read it, it was quoted out of context, which seems unfair, so I’m glad she actually did say the second part! And yeah, I’d have to agree with you on the whole role models issue – portraying queers as saints is almost as unhelpful as the opposite. It does concern me though that there seems to be a trend (particularly, from my POV, in SF&F – but that could just be because that’s my genre) for using bisexuality/homosexuality as shorthand for ‘evil in a slightly squicky way’. I’m thinking of characters like Baron Harkonnen in Dune. The Intendant as an individual character doesn’t bother me, but the trend does, a bit. See more examples here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepravedBisexual
But yeah, Mirror!Ezri/Mirror!Leeta FT epic W. There should be fic. Maybe I’ll write some when I’m done with my Deanna/K’Eylehr… or you should write some!
Yeah, I count Dax as queer, although I get the feeling a lot of the writing staff/production team didn’t. I really love Rejoined too – I hear some people have an issue with it because they see it as a story about a lesbian couple choosing not to be together because of what other people think, but what I like about it is how the same-sex aspect of their relationship isn’t even an issue, for anyone. More writing like that please, Trek.
It’s true, DS9 is the queerest of the Treks. Even not including the examples we’ve already mentioned, there are scattered moments that give the impression that DS9 is the kind of place where pretty much anything goes as long as it’s between consenting adults. I love the scene in Rules of Acquisition where Jadzia realises that Pel is in love with Quark, but hasn’t figured out she’s female.
In fact, DS9 seems to be the most liberal and realistic of the Treks in terms of sex/relationships generally – I mean, practically every time Deanna hooked up with someone it went terribly wrong, and Beverly wasn’t allowed so much as kiss unless she’d fallen madly in love with the guy. The people on DS9 date, occasionally have casual sex, break up amicably and otherwise, have marriage problems, have attractions to people other than their partners, flirt with people they meet at the bar... with TNG and VOY, it tended to be love-interest-of-the-week or True Love Forever, with not a lot in between.
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But yeah, Mirror!Ezri/Mirror!Leeta FT epic W. There should be fic. Maybe I’ll write some when I’m done with my Deanna/K’Eylehr… or you should write some!
Yeah, I count Dax as queer, although I get the feeling a lot of the writing staff/production team didn’t. I really love Rejoined too – I hear some people have an issue with it because they see it as a story about a lesbian couple choosing not to be together because of what other people think, but what I like about it is how the same-sex aspect of their relationship isn’t even an issue, for anyone. More writing like that please, Trek.
It’s true, DS9 is the queerest of the Treks. Even not including the examples we’ve already mentioned, there are scattered moments that give the impression that DS9 is the kind of place where pretty much anything goes as long as it’s between consenting adults. I love the scene in Rules of Acquisition where Jadzia realises that Pel is in love with Quark, but hasn’t figured out she’s female.
In fact, DS9 seems to be the most liberal and realistic of the Treks in terms of sex/relationships generally – I mean, practically every time Deanna hooked up with someone it went terribly wrong, and Beverly wasn’t allowed so much as kiss unless she’d fallen madly in love with the guy. The people on DS9 date, occasionally have casual sex, break up amicably and otherwise, have marriage problems, have attractions to people other than their partners, flirt with people they meet at the bar... with TNG and VOY, it tended to be love-interest-of-the-week or True Love Forever, with not a lot in between.